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Post by momo on Jul 3, 2007 19:52:36 GMT -5
They are afraid of Heather beating Quinn in the HOH competition, and chose to go back against the agreement.
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Post by survivormom on Aug 3, 2007 11:38:59 GMT -5
The alliance that Will happened to get himself into early enough in the game was why he stuck around through that. He would have voted with Miller, Quinn, and myself......we had that plan layed out early....why would we shoot ourselves in the foot by taking him out (advancing the opposing sides numbers) just because he became inactive? Why should the rest of the alliance be punished for his screw up?
That was why it went the way that it did....it wasn't because we wanted an easy road to pick through....I hope that helps with the understanding of RagDoll and why he was kept around through those 2 votes.
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Post by momo on Aug 3, 2007 21:41:45 GMT -5
I can understand your point of view but you guys did go back against the agreement, don't you?
I can say i'm being outplayed on that one. I miscalculated your relationship with Heather, tried to get you to say "I won't vote Heather" but you never said it, only agreed Dr Will should go before Heather.
Dr Will is no more inactive, he's literally dead. I originally wanted to put you, Quinn and Miller up.
I know Doc has a deal with Miller and Quinn but am surprise he has one with you too. What do you think will happen if he didn't disappear and you four reach final four with him being active?
and also who would you take between Miller and Quinn if you win the final HOH?
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Post by survivormom on Aug 7, 2007 17:32:14 GMT -5
What agreement did we go back on?
As far as Heather....I had no intention of keeping her in over Will with that vote. I KNEW that you two were peas in a pod and it would have been retarded for me to ignore that. That was why I never said I would not vote her.
We had plans to bring Will to final 4 (after Aerith was evicted) and that was where he was intended to stop. Him winning HoH would have been the only thing that would have saved him.
Doc didn't really have a deal with me so much as we were working for the same goals. I knew that he wouldn't be a final 2 or even 3 situation with me because he was brought into the alliance by Quinn.
That is a tough question...I had an alliance with Quinn but I know that he played a brilliant game. Miller has appeared to have played great too but I was closer to QUinn's game so I didn't see Miller as much. I may have thought I would have had a better chance against Miller. My personal word would have won the better of me though and I would have probably brought Quinn with the knowledge that I likely would have lost.....I guess that you all will have to tell me whether it was a right or wrong assumption!
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Post by momo on Aug 7, 2007 21:59:30 GMT -5
The agreement to vote off Dr Will and let Quinn and Heather battle it out at the next HOH competition.
I know i am being played, and props to them but please don't pretend it doesn't exist. I specifically said so to both Quinn and Miller. Quinn definitely agreed to it. I thought Miller did but now re-reading the pm, i can't find anything to use against him. He's very careful in using his words:
I personally think you're right in bringing Quinn in a final 2 situation. Quinn is more careless while Miller is more steady. I see him as a threat from early in the game, he's playing a very low-key game and behind the scene, a dangerous player who may just capable of nicking a win in the end.
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Post by survivormom on Aug 8, 2007 15:29:01 GMT -5
I never agreed to keeping Heather. You wanted me to agree to that because it was best for your game. It was not good for my game in any way, shape, or form. If you had not put Heather up then she wouldn't have had a shot at HoH so you took a gamble. I cannot vouche for what happened with you and Quinn but know that we never intended to keep Heather in if she were put up.
Another move was for you to put up Quinn and Will and know that Quinn would be the only competitor for HoH. But then you and Heather would have been on the block together the next week so that would still equal the same result. Do you see what I am saying? It would have done Quinn no good to have given the word to keep Heather because it would have been detrimental to his game.
The best move for you would have been to have put Quinn and myself on the block. You would have guaranteed that one of the 3 of us would have gone home thus taking out the legs from the alliance. But you cannot be faulted for not knowing how close knit we were.
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Post by survivormom on Aug 8, 2007 15:31:03 GMT -5
Oh and if you look at Quinn's reply to you about voting off Will.....he only said that he was cool with it and what happens happens....he did not say that he would vote for Will.
I know how you perceived it, but he was very careful with what he said there too.
This is a really hard vote for me to make...I absolutely love both of these players.....they played tough......and they are both pretty equal to me here in the end.
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Post by momo on Aug 8, 2007 23:59:46 GMT -5
That was Miller's reply, not Quinn's. Quinn definitely agreed to it or he wouldn't have need to explain to me afterwards about how you guys changed your minds.
Maybe you don't know I originally intended to nominate you, Quinn and Miller up, with Quinn going home because Heather wanted to vote him altho i prefer her to vote Miller, i see him as a bigger threat.
It's a gamble, i never denied it, whether in my confessional or in my convo with Quinn. I could took Quinn out that week and gamble on veto next week (is what i called a suicide mission) or we could all make peace and take out Doctor and let Heather and Quinn battle it out the week after that. Do i know the four of you are in an alliance? I am the one who told everybody the four of you have an alliance, but Quinn and Miller did such a great job in making C2M and Doc think their alliance with them is the real one.
I agree the two of them played real tough...credits to them. You guys took control of the game the whole way.
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