JURY!

[Philotas]

I wanted to get Yang out at Final 9. It seems to be working, and I thought Yang would be going that round. With you (TheAlethiometer) going that round put my plan into chaos. Looking back, Carol and I should have voted Yang out at Final 10, before getting Entropy out, but who would have known this is going to happen.

[Anthony (C2M)]

Wow drama lol...

[Philotas]

Whoa!! Yang is out!! Unbelievable. I thought it was going to be Anthony and then Carol next. I had no idea. I was right about there's a lot more to happen in the game. I really want to talk to Yang in here now. Come on, Yang, show your evil smile.

[The Alethiometer]

I didn't expect him to go this early either.

So I *think* the Final 3 are Yin, Drago, and Frags.

[yang]

Yang only went out because every person in the game flipped on him. His F3 Frags flipped...and his F2 Dragon turned on him as well. The only person that didnt vote Yang was Anthony surprisingly

Yang cant blame them, it was common sense to take him out because if he made the finals he had this game won hands down and every person in there agreed that Yang was the best player which is why they took him out (cept Carol/Biodork because he would never admit anyone is better than him).

If anyone wants to know why they went out or who voted for them, or anything that happened while Yang was there then ask away because Yang orchestrated everything that happened in this game up until his exit this week. He knows all the previous votes and actually manipulated these as well by having people vote where he wanted.

The final 4 should have been Yang, Frags, Dragon, and Yin....but they all flipped. This was dumb on Dragon's part because Yang blocked her all game. Yang is the ONLY reason she is alive. Yang made the target on himself so big that frags and dragon stayed invisible...but now without Yang to protect her, people will see that dragon is a better player than they thought.

Please, if you have any questions then ask away because Yang is a natural manipulator and loved every moment of his manipulation in this house.

Also on a side note, Yang respected you most out of anyone post-merge Philotas. Yang saw you as the ONLY person who had a chance against him in the final 2. Therefore, as Yang believes Entropy said in a previous post "do one to others before they do one to you". Yang suspected you would try and flip on him again so he had to take you out *grins*

[Philotas]

Yang, you were a great player and character as well. The game wouldn't have been so much fun without you. It was a surprise that you got eliminated this round. I agree that with you in the game, Frags and Dragon got quite covered from being targeted. Maybe, they feel that they have enough numbers at this point, to not have to be covered by you anymore. It's already Final 5 anyway, and 3 of them is enough to form the majority. So looks like Yin, Frags, and Dragon, decided to take themselves to Final 3. I will be pleasantly surprised if Carol or Anthony can make it to Final 3.

Yang, are you also the person who made the decision to get me out? Was it ever going to be Carol at all, or it's always going to be me that round? Was it you or Frags calling the shot to get me out? I suspect Frags may have something to do with the decision, because I know he was quited pissed at me, when I voted against him in one of the round.

[yang]

philotas said:

Yang, you were a great player and character as well. The game wouldn't have been so much fun without you. It was a surprise that you got eliminated this round. I agree that with you in the game, Frags and Dragon got quite covered from being targeted. Maybe, they feel that they have enough numbers at this point, to not have to be covered by you anymore. It's already Final 5 anyway, and 3 of them is enough to form the majority. So looks like Yin, Frags, and Dragon, decided to take themselves to Final 3. I will be pleasantly surprised if Carol or Anthony can make it to Final 3.

Yang, are you also the person who made the decision to get me out? Was it ever going to be Carol at all, or it's always going to be me that round? Was it you or Frags calling the shot to get me out? I suspect Frags may have something to do with the decision, because I know he was quited pissed at me, when I voted against him in one of the round.

No doubt frags wanted you out, but ultimately Yang was making the decisions. Dragon was giving Yang a hard time and Frags pushed for you, but Yang did not lie to you...he did carefully consider Carol, but the risk was higher with leaving you in the game because Carol is useless and you obviously are not.

Not sure if you saw my predictions in the votes thread, but I actually have frags winning against Carol/Bio. See Yang's theory on this is they obviously are not concerned with loyalty since Yang is sitting here right now, so since they aren't concerned with loyalty then this means they are going for the easiest win possible. What easier way to win than against Carol? Anyone vs. Carol in F2.....the Anyone gets a unanimous win UNLESS someone is pissed at the anyone and votes with their emotions because anyone post-merge including the people in the jury house played a better game than Carol did.

Basically what im saying is Frags, Dragon, and Yin may have that final 3 you suggest, but Yang doesnt see Dragon making it far. If they were willing to flip on Yang then they are willing to flip on each other as well. Yang did not make a mistake in this game unless you consider not winning immunity, but Yang is no Terry Deitz with ICs so even if he had won that immunity, it is now very clear that they all would have flipped on Yang the FIRST IC that he lost.

So, come F4, if Carol is still there, Yang thinks Frags will be smart enough to see the easy win he has in front of him. All he'd have to do is have Yin vote Dragon with them OR if anything went wrong he is still safe as long as he gets one vote because he beats Carol in a tie. Dragon made a horrible gameplay move by flippping on Yang in Yang's eyes. However, Yang thinks Frags made a great gameplay with the flip, and obviously this helps Yin because all Yin has done all game is flip on people.

The winner of this game will be Frags or Dragon if they make it....Frags if they both make it (Yang thinks anyways). If by some miracle Anthony (who Yang has alot of respect for, 2nd to only Philotas of post-merge competitors) makes final 2 against Yin or Carol he wins that. If its Yin vs. Carol then Yin wins.
So basically:
Anyone vs. Carol....win goes to Anyone
Anyone vs. Yin....anyone BUT Carol wins
Anyone vs. Anthony....either Frags or Dragon win that
Frags vs. Non-Dragon...frags wins
Dragon vs. Non-Frags....Dragon wins
Frags vs. Dragon....this is the ONLY toss-up that is left, but Yang thinks Frags wins narrowly did better strategically this game by placing himself where he did with Yang. Think of it this way, Dragon agreed to an F2 with Yang and assured him countless times she would not flip.....However, Frags was the F3 and he placed himself in an amazing spot. He was with Yang, which meant he was perfectly blanketed because anyone truly with Yang was invisible since Yang kept making his target bigger. BUT, Frags was on the outside a bit more than Dragon so his flip doesnt look as much like a betrayal like Dragon and seems more like a flip. Dragon was a blatent betrayal, Frags does not look that way. Therefore, Frags placed himself in a position where he could flip on Yang without suffering as much consequence as Dragon in the eyes of the jury. News Flash....that is all Frags needed because he already "one-ups" anyone else in the house so just this gives him ups on Dragon and that means he has a "one-up" on everyone in some degreee.

FOR THIS AND OTHER REASONS....IF FRAGS MAKES F2, HE GETS YANG'S VOTE

[The Alethiometer]

Not sure why you Yang would believe dragon's F2 with you. You must have forgotten that dragonomine, Frags, and Yin have been in the same tribe since we were divided into just 2 tribes. I thought it was a very obvious indicator that those 3 had something. When we merged and YOU flipped to their side, they used it to get the others out. At Final 6, they figured out they don't need you anymore, and so they chopped you off. You only think you were the leader because they let you think it. You're like a fly on a bull's back. Just because the fly is on the bull's back doesn't mean the fly is mightier than the bull. The bull can just easily swish his tail on the fly and kill it. That's what happened to you Yang. You got played.

It's amusing that you fell for drago's offer. You're the "master of evil", you should have known everyone is capable of it and should not have trusted anyone.

[yang]

thealethiometer said:

Not sure why you Yang would believe dragon's F2 with you. You must have forgotten that dragonomine, Frags, and Yin have been in the same tribe since we were divided into just 2 tribes. I thought it was a very obvious indicator that those 3 had something. When we merged and YOU flipped to their side, they used it to get the others out. At Final 6, they figured out they don't need you anymore, and so they chopped you off. You only think you were the leader because they let you think it. You're like a fly on a bull's back. Just because the fly is on the bull's back doesn't mean the fly is mightier than the bull. The bull can just easily swish his tail on the fly and kill it. That's what happened to you Yang. You got played.

It's amusing that you fell for drago's offer. You're the "master of evil", you should have known everyone is capable of it and should not have trusted anyone.

Actually Yang didnt fall for anything....Yang created a deal with her before she even had allies. Way back when she was on Metnal is when she became an ally, so your argument is null and void right there since neither Frags or Yin were on Metnal.

Yang was the leader and mastermind...they just finally realized that they would never beat him so they all took him out. Same philosophy Yang had with Philotas "Do one to others before they Do one to you". See, Yang knew most of them would flip, but what choice did he have? He had to trust someone to be his F2 because winning every single challenge is impossible...not even Terry Deitz or Ozzy Lusth won every challenge.

Bottom line, Yang is only surprised because of the strategic aspect of this. Yang totally understands why she needed to get him out because she felt threatened by him as did every player post-merge except maybe C2M since he wasnt around long enough. However, Yang is surprised that she would make that kind of hinderance on her gameplay. She took a risk in doing that, but Yang thinks the risk is much greater than the reward. She passed up a guaranteed F2 for a shot at the win. So now she isnt even guaranteed to make the finals, let alone guaranteed to win if she did. Therefore, Yang thinks she made a bad decision strategically.

BUT Frags made a great strategic move. Then Yin....well, it helps Yin a bit but not much. Anthony was actually helped more last week than anyone besides Frags because Anthony once again stuck by his beliefs and has shown that he is clearly the only truly honest player left.

If they "let Yang think that" like you suggest...then how come they couldnt survive without Yang? Without Yang there Frags and Dragon would have both been picked off easily. Yang was their shield, and Yang was the mastermind behind everything up to this point. Hell, even in the week he went out, he still had a somewhat complex plan, just noone followed it. Whenever all of you thought you had Yang's number....he magically had the numbers...it is called Manipulation Aleth...and it is what Yang does best. Yang could not be played...ask Philotas, Yang saw Philotas turning on him from a mile away. And Yang DID see the chance of Dragon turning, but he just miscaulculated because he did not think she would make such a poor decision. Even If Dragon didnt vote Yang, Yang is still sitting here right now, which is even more reason that Dragon's move wasnt a smart one to make.

[Anthony]

Anthony once again stuck by his beliefs and has shown that he is clearly the only truly honest player left.

Who'd have thought that out of everybody, you'd be singing my praises eh Yang?

But yeah, I agree LOL ... 5th/24 without telling a single lie is pretty good, and I'm happy I played it that way, especially as I feel I did all I could strategically as well but I was in the minority number wise throughout. Also, I'm pretty proud of the fact I survived so many tribals ... I'm pretty sure I went to the most tribals pre-merge so I happy with my game.

[yang]

Yes, kind of ironic how the week that Yang went out, you ended up being the only one he could trust.

You know what else Yang finds hilarious? Apparently all of them aren't even smart enough to understand what happened. They all thought that you self-voted and Yang voted Yin...seriously, why would Yang be stupid enough to do that unless he was ABSOLUTELY sure noone would flip on him. Which, Yang expected ppl to flip so he tried for you instead Anthony. Yang actually had to explain to one of them (Dragonomine) what happened during the week they took him out.

If you ask Yang, its pretty pathetic when you flip and vote someone out, and they still have to explain to you what happened in the house. Just shows that Yang really was the mastermind and NOT the other three as Aleth misinterprets.

All in all Anthony, just as Yang told you....you were a resiliant little bastard. Yang admired your courage in standing up to him. You were the only player all game that had enough balls to stand up to Yang from the start and fight him. Others joined you later, and they payed the price for it (Entropy, Aleth, Phil). Hell, you could even say Carol paid the price as well because by doing that Carol's game is so ruined that Carol may not even get a single vote if they made F2, let alone winning. However, you stood tall, and then finally you just couldn't trust your allies anymore so you decided to go with "if you cant beat em, join em" and join Yang.

Seems like we both had that in common, neither one of us had allies we could trust. Which is why you weren't sitting here a week earlier than you are now (again, nothing personal, Yang WANTED to take Carol out, but unfortunately Biodork got lucky and won an immunity so that meant you had to be the target because other than Carol, you were the only one Yang could beat in a tie). Which brings Yang to another common misconception...these idiots actually thought they could outanalyze Yang in who had what for previous votes? Yang had all the previous votes recorded and you and carol both had 7 that week, and Yang had 6...last time he checked, 7 was bigger than 6.

All in all, Frags has this wrapped up as long as he makes F2. He would be smart to take out Dragon next though just for safety purposes because he EASILY beats Yin or Carol, but Dragon would be a tough fight (although Yang still thinks he would win since he did more and played a better game). Frags is the only one left now that you are gone who played a decent game.

[Anthony]

They really thought that?

It all clicked when I saw the vote for me ... I honestly expected you to vote Yin then when I saw my vote I realised who it was from and why ... and I was even more impressed you genuinely are a smart player, head and shoulders above that final 4.

However, I don't agree that dragon could beat Frags. I don't believe dragon has played a good game at all. I think her social game has been awful, she's really ignorant. And she always sounds so defeated ... "i don't expect to go much further but for my first game at RGO I've done really well" ... they're not comments of a winner IMO.

What do you all think about it being a final 3 rather than final 2? If Frags doesn't win immunity then the smartest thing would be to take him out or the other 3 have no chance.

[yang]

anthony said:

They really thought that?

It all clicked when I saw the vote for me ... I honestly expected you to vote Yin then when I saw my vote I realised who it was from and why ... and I was even more impressed you genuinely are a smart player, head and shoulders above that final 4.

However, I don't agree that dragon could beat Frags. I don't believe dragon has played a good game at all. I think her social game has been awful, she's really ignorant. And she always sounds so defeated ... "i don't expect to go much further but for my first game at RGO I've done really well" ... they're not comments of a winner IMO.

What do you all think about it being a final 3 rather than final 2? If Frags doesn't win immunity then the smartest thing would be to take him out or the other 3 have no chance.

Why thankyou for the comments Anthony. You are among Yang's three most respected this game (Phil, you, and William). Actually, the only other person Yang has any respect for is Frags for his above average to decent game he played.

Agreed that Frags has this won if he makes the finals. Dragon has played a sloppy and unworthy game....however, Yin and Carol have played even worse games.

See Dragon made a stupid move strategically by flipping on Yang because one of the only arguments she could use is that she was a loyal spy for Yang, but now she cant even use that because she wasnt loyal. So all she can say is that she was a spy pretty much.

Frags on the other hand placed himself in a great position. It was VERY good strategically for him to vote out Yang. Because if Frags was Yang's final 3, then he wasnt guaranteed the finals if (lets just say Yin made f4 with us for the purpose of this example) Yin won immunity because he would have gone right there. So by voting off the only player who beat him hands down, Frags set himself up to win this because he is the only player in there that played atleast a decent game.

You would have made a good winner as well Anthony based on your honesty and resiliance. You and Yang actually had more in common in this game than people would have thought. We were both very resiliant for one...

[Philotas]

I didn't know Anthony had an idea to join Yang at some point in the game. You guys should have told me earlier! We could have join forces! LOL

[yang]

philotas said:

I didn't know Anthony had an idea to join Yang at some point in the game. You guys should have told me earlier! We could have join forces! LOL

This was after you went out lol. And the only other time we discussed helping each other was back in Gukumatz. Then we didnt agree, so Yang set his sights on taking Anthony out...and nova self-voted which meant only his partner Alex went out.