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Post by The Alethiometer on Mar 5, 2008 10:32:20 GMT -5
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Post by Philotas on Mar 5, 2008 12:56:45 GMT -5
I never genuinely dislike anyone I've played with, but with Yin, I feel like I will find it hard to be friend with, even outside of the game, because of what happened in the game. I respect that Yin is making it far in the game, but all those lying and apologizing and then lying again, can really make one sick with anger.
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Post by Anthony (C2M) on Mar 5, 2008 18:43:14 GMT -5
wow lol
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Post by entropy on Mar 5, 2008 23:59:17 GMT -5
hmm.. so what exactly did he lie about? - that made u guys so upset
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Post by The Alethiometer on Mar 6, 2008 13:48:21 GMT -5
That he was voting for Yang and then he voted for me?
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Post by Philotas on Mar 6, 2008 22:01:23 GMT -5
That was one time, then he lied again when I was voted out. I think Frags is the mastermind behind this. He basically get threats out, even if they are his allies, when there's enough number on his side, to get himself up the totem pole. At least that's what I think is happening.
It was a right move for me to try to side with Yang. I don't know who's the main person deciding to get me out. I suspect Frags. Yang should have seen that I was a surer ally in the end game, than Frags or Yin. Nevertheless, it wouldn't change anything for him, because Dragon also flipped on him.
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Post by yang on Mar 6, 2008 22:31:33 GMT -5
Wrong Philotas...Yang was the mastermind....Frags was just his disciple. In the end it was Yang's decision to remove you from the game. Yang wanted to trust you, but by your previous actions you just had to be removed.
Obviously your word means more than even Frags or Yang's F2 Dragon....but he does not regret taking you out because even if you were still in the game Yang still would be sitting here now since Dragon and Frags would still flip.
Frags is not a mastermind, Yang planned everything post-merge. However, Frags is the best player left and he should win this now that Yang is not there
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Post by Philotas on Mar 7, 2008 5:37:12 GMT -5
I think Frags is a great player also, better than anyone left in the game now.
If it was Carol instead of me going at Final 7, you might have a better chance of surviving Final 6. I consider many angles, and even though I expected Anthony to go out at Final 6, if I got a sniff of people flipping (If either Frags, Drago, or Yin tell me they will be voting you out, like they told Carol), I would know right away, those 3 have deals, and I will go to you instead, and convince Anthony to vote Frags out instead. Carol should have done that, if she knew those 3 were targeting you.
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Post by The Alethiometer on Mar 7, 2008 12:25:18 GMT -5
Yang, did it ever occur to you that Frags/Yin/Drago WERE the real masterminds and they used you as the "fall guy"? It's so obvious. I expected you to be disposed, but not this soon.
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Post by yang on Mar 7, 2008 20:04:34 GMT -5
They did nothing pathetic little Aleth. Yin just flopped back and forth....and Dragon and Frags sat back as Yang blocked them..which this did work well for them, but clearly not a mastermind move. Frags was Yang's pawn from very early on. Dragon was an ally very early on...and Yin was a pawn early on, but then he joined Entropy's gang along with you...and then after Entropy was disposed of, Yang used him for what he wanted, but never actually trusted him.
There is only one person Yang KNEW would not flip on him, and that was Dr. William....you are all very lucky that what went down in Gukumatz happened because if it didnt then Yang would have won and not gotten 6th place. As a matter of fact, it amuses Yang that his original allies went out pre-merge yet post-merge Yang got pretty much everyone to do what he wanted atleast on one occasion.
What was your game anyways Aleth? All Yang saw you do is join Entropy and die.
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Post by Anthony on Mar 12, 2008 13:50:00 GMT -5
You're right about Yin, I don't think I've disliked a player as much as him. He was such a lying sneak who mislead me and lied to me round after round.
Frags told me it was his idea to take out yang, he convinced Yin apparantly and it was his idea to get me out.
Phil, the round you were voted out ... how did you vote?
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Post by yang on Mar 12, 2008 19:25:25 GMT -5
He voted for Carol that week....Yang planned that my friend to stack votes on Biodork *grins*
As for Frags...it wasnt his idea. He originally wanted to take you out Anthony (yes, Yang was the vote for you...Yang would have rather taken out Yin like he told you the plan was, but he knew he couldnt beat Yin in a tie, so you were the safest target). The thing is, Biodork cant stand Yang so im sure he complained and complained and complained some more to Frags about how Yang will beat anyone in the finals and he has to go etc. So Frags eventually saw this, he caved in...got Dragon and Yin to flip as well...and then Frags gets the credit for it when in reality...noone really "took out Yang"...it was just a common sense move to take him out.
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Post by Philotas on Mar 13, 2008 9:16:56 GMT -5
You're right about Yin, I don't think I've disliked a player as much as him. He was such a lying sneak who mislead me and lied to me round after round. Frags told me it was his idea to take out yang, he convinced Yin apparantly and it was his idea to get me out. Phil, the round you were voted out ... how did you vote? I voted for Carol that round, Anthony. Sorry, I did not tell you or Carol how I was actually going to vote that round. I did not lie to you though. I simply didn't tell you how I would vote. I realized I wasn't going to win the battle if I am going to vote against Yang, so I flipped it around and try to convince Yang instead to save me. I thought if I could convince Yang, there's a chance that Yang will get others to change their minds as well. Yang did assure me that I would be saved, but it was just a false hope. Nevertheless, I'm glad to make it this far, and glad that I was able to help some of my allies get far in the game as well.
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Post by Anthony on Mar 13, 2008 12:41:17 GMT -5
You're right about Yin, I don't think I've disliked a player as much as him. He was such a lying sneak who mislead me and lied to me round after round. Frags told me it was his idea to take out yang, he convinced Yin apparantly and it was his idea to get me out. Phil, the round you were voted out ... how did you vote? I voted for Carol that round, Anthony. Sorry, I did not tell you or Carol how I was actually going to vote that round. I did not lie to you though. I simply didn't tell you how I would vote. I realized I wasn't going to win the battle if I am going to vote against Yang, so I flipped it around and try to convince Yang instead to save me. I thought if I could convince Yang, there's a chance that Yang will get others to change their minds as well. Yang did assure me that I would be saved, but it was just a false hope. Nevertheless, I'm glad to make it this far, and glad that I was able to help some of my allies get far in the game as well. You were the ONLY person out of all 23 players that I expected to be completely honest with me. Considering we joined up not long before merge, I had a LOT of trust in you, more than anyone else, well maybe bar alex but I've played with him here before. And yeah, you didn't lie to me and say you were voting yang, but you did mislead me that round just as Yin did for 2 rounds previous. I understand you did what you have to do but I had that much trust in you that I called Carol a liar which meant she no longer had any trust in me so voted against me the round I was voted out.
Ah well, it's happened now ... I just wish everyone could have been as honest as I was.
I still really like you Phil as a non-player LOL.
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Post by The Alethiometer on Mar 13, 2008 13:00:51 GMT -5
What was your game anyways Aleth? All Yang saw you do is join Entropy and die. Hehe, this was just an experiment, to see how far I could go without actually lying and blatantly telling the truth to anyone who asked. I didn't actually had any plans at all. Too bad nobody asked me pointed questions like "are you in an alliance with _____" because I'd tell them the truth.
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