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Post by Lilly-Beth on Jan 2, 2009 22:57:11 GMT -5
In my opinion there is no way to play a perfect game strategy wise since a lot of this game is based on luck so my question to you is at what point did something happen where for you plan A became unworkable and you needed to adapt? and how did you do so? Actually, i don't believe in making plans in these game anymore, since everytime I had one, they get foiled, or somehow the whole game finds out about it. So, I don't have plans in these games anymore, I just take them a round at a time, which works way better for me.
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Post by JP on Jan 2, 2009 23:35:09 GMT -5
First question, and it's to the both of you: On a scale of 1-10 (10 being best), rate this game and why. Second question, to JP: What is the move that you feel the most guilty about making? Last question, to Liz: What is the move that you feel brought you to this spot? Hi Mitch! I would rate this game an 8. I LOVE the twists. They're so annoyingly devious, and very unpredictable. I never liked twists in a game, but I came in to this game expecting the craziest twists and facing it head on, and I am glad I did because I loved every twists the host threw in! GRRR!! LOL! The reason why this is not a 10 is because I felt some challenges were not thought out well, and were made just to make poor players like us suffer while he eats in front of his computer stuffing his face with mashed potatoes and laughing at us. Oh wait... Yea, some challenges could have been better/less sadistic, but oh well, this is not Survivor: A Walk in the Park, is it? The move I feel the most guilty of making is voting off Jason. I felt he really wanted to play with me but I kind of did not give him a chance, because of the other deals I already made. I hope he can give me another chance in the future to play with him. Thanks for listening!
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Post by JP on Jan 2, 2009 23:58:37 GMT -5
You are entitled to your opinions, and I am entitled to mine. Just don't be so self-righteous. Just because you're hiding behind a ghostnic doesn't mean you have changed your game play, because you have not, and you still played the only way you know how to play: use your friends until you get screwed over and you cry foul, or you screw them over and they cry foul and you use the "I am playing the game" card. Haha this may be fun to you, being Gretch the Fetch, but you're just a copycat now, there are a lot of better, b*tchier characters out there, and because you don't bring anything to the table except being a gender-traitor, anti-Male Nazi. Now on to your questions: Now onto my questions. 1. Elizabeth, were you happy with how JP played this game? 2. JP, how stupid do you think each of the jurors are? You can rank us on how stupid we are, if you would prefer . You played, lied, and talked to us like we were idiots, so I’m just curious. I’m not five years old, I’m not twelve years old, I know when I’m being lied to. 3. JP, why should I vote for the person who lied to me numerous times even after I was voted out? 2. I don't think any of you are stupid. I didn't talk to anyone like they're idiots. That's only your opinion, and I doubt you're the Jury representative of this game, like you'd know how I interacted with the other Jurors? If I thought any of you were stupid, then I would just offered everyone my friendship and let it like that without doing any further communication, and demand to them that they stick to our friendship. I could have also ordered people around on how to vote. I didn't do that. I actually sent PMs to everyone I can talk to to know what they're doing, because never for once did I underestimate anyone, including you. If you could have backstabbed Mitch in another game (yes I know about that), then you can do the same thing here. If I thought you were stupid then I wouldn't have voted you off because I'd think you'll be stupid enough to stick with me and Liz in the Final 3 and hope Liz wins Final Immunity. Of course, I didn't think you're stupid at all so you were voted off. 3. You should vote for the person who lied to you numerous times even after you were voted out because you want to be seen as a mature player who have grown up from playing a very emotional game to a very logical one.
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Post by JP on Jan 3, 2009 0:04:22 GMT -5
Hi JP and Liz! I only have a few questions for you guys: Liz, why does JP deserve to win? JP, why does Liz deserve to win? Both of you, rate the jury on their gameplay, and say why. My vote is up for grabs, so answer all of the questions good. Hi Jonathan! Liz deserves to win because she is nice and was smart enough to befriend one Jury member who will not hesitate to campaign for her in the Jury house. Jonathan, I will have to rate the Jury tomorrow, I have to go to sleep, I still have work tonight. I hope you understand.
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Post by JP on Jan 3, 2009 0:05:29 GMT -5
Padma and darkking, I will have to answer your questions later.
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Post by Gretchen Weiners on Jan 3, 2009 19:52:46 GMT -5
1. I align with friends in RGO games cause I dislike some people here and my friends also dislike those people. I didn't expect to win this game, and I don't really care that you screwed me over, just that you blatantly lied to me over and over again. And I don't bitch and whine in most games, cause most of the time, I'm the person trying to reason with the person bitching and whining (Think Omarosa, Liz)
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Post by Gretchen Weiners on Jan 3, 2009 19:54:17 GMT -5
But I don't think its logical to vote for the person who lied to you.
And as for your whole "I don't think you're stupid", then why did you lie to me after I was voted off? Did you expect me to believe it? That takes us back to the whole "how stupid do you think I am?" deal.
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Post by Gretchen Weiners on Jan 3, 2009 22:33:21 GMT -5
LMFAO! THe only thing in the above bullshit that might win you my vote..
(Anti-male nazi? I have played as a male once...and I won as him too.)
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Post by JP on Jan 4, 2009 0:49:38 GMT -5
LMFAO! THe only thing in the above bullshit that might win you my vote.. (Anti-male nazi? I have played as a male once... and I won as him too.) That's actually kind of ironically funny that you won as a guy! LOL. It'll be like me playing as one of the characters I hate and end up winning the game. I'd love to hear about it in the future, maybe I'll ask you to give me details after the game is over.
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Post by Lilly-Beth on Jan 4, 2009 1:16:43 GMT -5
LMFAO! THe only thing in the above bullshit that might win you my vote.. (Anti-male nazi? I have played as a male once... and I won as him too.) Was that the all male game where I got eliminated for refusing to do confessionals?
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Post by JP on Jan 4, 2009 3:33:38 GMT -5
Hi ZHP, I'll continue with my answers now. Both of you, rate the jury on their gameplay, and say why. These are just my impressions/opinions! Jason - 7 out 10. Great at challenges, but could have been better if he flipped the game and joined lily/ZHP/biopimp to take either me/Liz/Gretchen/darkking out during F10 or F9. biopimp - 9 out of 10. Honestly, I did not want him to be voted off early, but when he told me how he managed to survive his TC in his old camp (Hunga), I was impressed by his strategic thinking and game play. I knew if he could save his own skin before, he can do it again. I felt threatened by him and the only logical step for me is to take out one of my biggest threat. ZHP - 6 out of 10. We never really got to talk much, so from what I saw in your game play, I saw an under-the-radar but very loyal game play. You stuck to your allies and would probably last longer if you didn't self-vote your way out of the game. Gretchen - 7 out of 10. I would say you have the same game play as ZHP, kind of under-the-radar-but-not-really because of your personality. And you're very loyal to your allies. darkking - 8 out of 10. I played with you closely so I have seen how you played in this game. You also played an under-the-radar game but also took initiatives in planning strategies and making moves that benefited both of us. It's not a perfect 10 because you could have been more open communication-wise with our other tribemates or the Jurors during the Final 5 twist. Mitch and Lilytiger - 9 out of 10. I am combining you two because I consider you both as a "duo". A very proactive approach in game play. Very strong. After I voted off pimp I kept my eye on you both, because you two were huge threats! Mitch was like the one who guides your alliance while Lilytiger was the "muscle-lady" (Immunity threat) and the "charm queen". But I did not actually went against you two but formed an alliance with you. Something like keeping your enemies closer. Also, I knew it would benefit me if I have you guys helping me out and not trying to take me out, so that's what I did. I loved every minute working with both of you and would want to do it again in the future. I hope that answers your questions!
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Post by JP on Jan 4, 2009 3:51:34 GMT -5
Huh I just realized I was on the jury for this game. OK I'll keep it easy...what a shock a JP/Liz final. This question essentially works for both of you...since I always seem to be taken out by the Liz/JP/Mitch/Jake alliance that seems to be existing in every game, I'd like to know why you guys always target me and never ask me to work with you? Individually... JP, I know you don't care for me for whatever reason, I just want to know if that will always cloud your judgment of me in any game we play together (i.e. Will I always be your target/never receive your vote in the finals) Liz, you are actually a joy to play with, do you ever see yourself venturing outside your comfort alliance and playing with new people? Good luck to you both. Jason Hi Jason! "I'd like to know why you guys always target me and never ask me to work with you?" -- I don't know how to answer this question because I don't believe I "always" target you and never asked you to work with me. We may not work together as often as I work with others but it doesn't mean we didn't work together. If we started a game together and I felt you're more of a benefit to me than a liability, then I will work closely with you. But everyone knows you're a huge social and Immunity threat, a deadly combo, so if any players want any chance of winning at all they'll want to take out as soon as they can. If I formed an alliance with you and stick with you to the end and make the finals together, you're going to win for sure. If I formed an alliance with you and backstab you at the last minute, then you'll hate me and not vote for me ever. So it's like a damn if you, damn if you don't kind of thing for me. Perhaps if I was playing a crazy game like I did with Flo in Chainlink then I'll go with you to the finals, but usually I play to win and that means if I want to win, I shouldn't be sitting with you in the finals, and if I don't want to sit with you in the finals, then it means I have to vote you off, and if I have to vote you off, it will lessen (but not obliterate, mind you) the guilty feeling of voting you off if I don't form an alliance with you. But if my only chance of moving forward in the game is forming an alliance with you, then I will work with you. From a game player to a game player, I hope you understand where I'm coming from. "JP, I know you don't care for me for whatever reason, I just want to know if that will always cloud your judgment of me in any game we play together (i.e. Will I always be your target/never receive your vote in the finals)" No, it will not always cloud my judgment of you. I am a game player, I may be emotional sometimes, but in the end, I am a game player. If I think we're both going to benefit by working together, then I work with you. If I see you as a threat, then I vote you off. If I feel you deserve to win the game, and if you're not sitting beside an ally (because I tend to vote for my ally if they're in the finals), then I vote for you. Not sure if this will reassure you, but Jeff (RGO owner) and I for a long time have been polar opposites in games. We hate each other (in games) so much that we try to get each other out each time. We know the other is a threat and we do whatever we can to get the other person out. but you know what? After the game is over, (and after we calm ourselves down LOL), we still talk. Or at least he still listens to me rant and I still laugh at his schizophrenic forum posts. So hopefully you see that I take each game separately and try to experience new adventures with different sets of people. I'm looking forward for a Jason/JP/Gretchen alliance! Thanks.
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Post by Lilly-Beth on Jan 4, 2009 5:20:12 GMT -5
Now onto my questions. 1. Elizabeth, were you happy with how JP played this game? I don't have an opinion on JP's gameplay, but you should know JP and how sneaky he can be by now.
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Post by Lilly-Beth on Jan 4, 2009 5:21:05 GMT -5
I'm looking forward for a Jason/JP/Gretchen alliance! That is scary. Then again, I think it'll be more amusing to watch than scary.
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Post by Lilly-Beth on Jan 4, 2009 5:39:31 GMT -5
Hi JP and Liz! I only have a few questions for you guys: Liz, why does JP deserve to win? Both of you, rate the jury on their gameplay, and say why. Hi ZHP!! JP deserves to win because he's active in the game and in challenges. He knows how to be sneaky, he knows how to make good allies, he knows how to be social and communicate/strategize with all the players in the game and use it to his advantage to get what he wants. I typed up the rating earlier, but it got lost when my browser crashed as I clicked post . I'll try to re-do it later if I have time, sorry.
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