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Post by El Patricko on Aug 7, 2007 20:01:12 GMT -5
Hey guys.
Remember me?
No?
That's ok, I can't say I blame you. I barely remember being in the house, myself.
To be quite honest I became quite bored of this game during my time in the house and coming back and reading your F2 statements reminded me why I asked to be voted out to begin with.
When I was on the block with Dr Will, I asked to be voted out because I just wasn't into the game and I felt Dr Will was and that he deserved to keep having fun. However, Dr Will's personal life prevented him from being able to participate in the game shortly after I left. Even though Dr Will was no longer playing, the two of you kept him in the game in favour of others who were indeed active and having fun. So my questions to the both of you are....
Do you guys play these games to have fun or do you do it solely to win? Do you play games like Monopoly by yourself so that you can make sure you win?
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Post by quinn on Aug 7, 2007 20:53:29 GMT -5
1. I did fake weakness at the start, then honestly when the game strated to get to a "yeah winning things would rock right about now." (when I saw how much of a threat Momo was getting to be.) I started to really try. But the timing was ALWAYS off for me.
Reason? My wife works untill 9 PM Atlantic time. She does not drive, I do. I needed to go get her in that time frame. If we could go back and look at the times that Jeff was to post the challenges it was right around the same time... An hour before, right at the same time, or right after..... I was OFTEN not able to be here on time.
I did NOT try to throw the last challenge. I was SO trying, I wanted that SOOOOOOO MUCH. I wanted to show that I was going to do what others did not think I was going to do, to bring you (Survivormom). I KNOW most thought it was a given for me to bring Miller. but it was not, and having people start going "Wow, I did not see that comming." Would have been priceless. I also wanted to show that "I could win challenges".
2. I was dishonest with you when, before Aerith was gone, I offered you a final 2. When I had all intentions to bring Aerith. I overlapped my final 2 offers between you and her. At that time you replied; "I can't it would be so dirty." or something like that. I left it alone, and was able to go back once Aerith was gone, and asked "So about what I asked earlier..." and you then agreed to be f2's together for the first time, and I felt that with Aerith out of the way, you could FINALY agree to it. And I trusted it.
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Post by quinn on Aug 7, 2007 21:25:21 GMT -5
Hey guys. Remember me? No? That's ok, I can't say I blame you. I barely remember being in the house, myself. To be quite honest I became quite bored of this game during my time in the house and coming back and reading your F2 statements reminded me why I asked to be voted out to begin with. When I was on the block with Dr Will, I asked to be voted out because I just wasn't into the game and I felt Dr Will was and that he deserved to keep having fun. However, Dr Will's personal life prevented him from being able to participate in the game shortly after I left. Even though Dr Will was no longer playing, the two of you kept him in the game in favour of others who were indeed active and having fun. So my questions to the both of you are.... Do you guys play these games to have fun or do you do it solely to win? Do you play games like Monopoly by yourself so that you can make sure you win?I could not pay this without a challenge. What's the worth of playing if you don't have a challenge. Why did I bring Willie along? Because we had an agreement. More so than I had with Momo. Will told me one day that he MIGHT be gone for a bit, but that he would not be gone for too long. I was holding on to that. He told me that at SEG. (because we had annother game going on there starting) So Willie, as you know, was still a big part of my game. After Aerith left, behind Survivormom (my new f2) Miller (my new f3) he was right there for f4. Sure he THOUGHT he was to be f2 with me, but that said, yeah I was holding on a hoping he would be there to actually help me get to the end.
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Post by Millertime on Aug 7, 2007 23:03:26 GMT -5
Smom, you are truly a sweetheart! You made it a lot of fun while we were waiting on the next challenge or the results of a challenge and for that I say Thank You! 1. Did you ever SERIOUSLY entertain bringing me to the final 2 with you or were you set as soon as you won the last challenge?Yes I did SERIOUSLY consider taking you to the final 2! I looked at both you and Quinn from the time we made final 4 and continued going back and forth with it up until I had to make my decision. Granted, you were practically not here for the first three weeks, but once you showed up, you were a real powerhouse. Most people tend to go with their short term memories and you stood out in the second half of the game. I came very close to bringing you with me, but the combination of how you did in the challenges and the fact that you are just so loveable to everyone, I was just afraid that both of those things would play against me. I knew that Quinn was an ASS! (just kidding) Seriously, I knew that Quinn had done a lot of my dirty work and might have made some enemies along the way and the fact that I outplayed him in the challenges might give me the edge. So, to answer your second part, no I was not set in my decision when I won the last challenge. I was leaning towards Quinn but nothing was set until after I wieghed the pros and cons of you both one more time. 2. If Quinn couldn't be sitting next to you right now, who do you think DESERVES to be in his spot.....who do you think absolutely doesn't deserve it?Honestly, and I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else, but if Quinn wasn't here beside me, I think the person that most DESERVES to be in his spot would be momo. momo is as hardcore a player as I could imagine, she kept me on my toes and made me have to try so many ways to try and get her out of the game. My hat's off to you momo! As for who I think absolutely doesn't deserve it, and once again no disrespect to anyone, but I would have to say El Robbiachi. Although Dr. Will had disappeared, I knew that he was hoping to stay in the game long enough so that when he returned he might still be able to play, but El Robbiachi just quit, there's not much that can be said about that. And finally to both of you.....You both appear to have played very similar games.....what is your biggest STRATEGIC accomplishment in the game that sets you APART from the man sitting next to you? I am not referring to winning a veto to get off the block or winning HoH...I am talking about your game play with the rest of the house.Plain and simple...............Jello Shots! ;D Seriously, this is a tough question.............I'd have to say one word.......Integrity!
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Post by Millertime on Aug 7, 2007 23:26:34 GMT -5
Hey guys. Remember me? No? That's ok, I can't say I blame you. I barely remember being in the house, myself. To be quite honest I became quite bored of this game during my time in the house and coming back and reading your F2 statements reminded me why I asked to be voted out to begin with. When I was on the block with Dr Will, I asked to be voted out because I just wasn't into the game and I felt Dr Will was and that he deserved to keep having fun. However, Dr Will's personal life prevented him from being able to participate in the game shortly after I left. Even though Dr Will was no longer playing, the two of you kept him in the game in favour of others who were indeed active and having fun. So my questions to the both of you are.... Do you guys play these games to have fun or do you do it solely to win? Do you play games like Monopoly by yourself so that you can make sure you win?I play these games to have fun, but then again, I don't know what kind of games you play, but if I play anything, I play to win! As for having fun, it is much more fun to win than lose. What use is there of playing if you don't try to win? I, just as Quinn, was hoping that Dr. Will would return, but when he didn't, he became a pawn to be used in this game by any who remained. If there is anything that I learned in the military, it is to use every advantage to your advantage. If your not going to come at me with your best game, I would prefer that you didn't waste my time. As for your second question.............I would have to say not so much monopoly, but maybe chess............it requires you to think and to use strategy.............I'm the best I ever played against!
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Post by quinn on Aug 8, 2007 4:59:19 GMT -5
Oups I had forgotten about that last part of your statement sweety Smom! What set me appart was how I set myself up for the end of the game, at final 4, had willie been there playing, all three of you would have brought me to the end! Have Aerith not left early, I would have had all final 5 players bringing me to the end. (Willei would have gone at final 5 if Aerith had made it there.) Not only was a able to have all of these people thinking "I have something going on with Quinn for the end." But somehow I was able to keep all of them from talking about that to each other. All it would have taken is TWO of you to go "Hey Quinn told me the same thing." But I phrased my things a certain way, and I kept a low profile about it all.
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Post by Jeff on Aug 8, 2007 9:27:07 GMT -5
The finalists can now post their closing statements. Once they are posted, jurors, please start sending in your votes.
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Post by Dr Will on Aug 8, 2007 11:28:31 GMT -5
I'm not convinced that you were going CT on me Quinn, if that was true then you would have tried coming after me sooner in the game without me knowing. So being CT on me really isn't true. You are just trying to shade yourself as the bad guy and I don't buy it. As long as I was still active you would have stayed with me.
Great game Miller, you deserve this one
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Post by quinn on Aug 8, 2007 12:20:33 GMT -5
I'm not convinced that you were going CT on me Quinn, if that was true then you would have tried coming after me sooner in the game without me knowing. So being CT on me really isn't true. You are just trying to shade yourself as the bad guy and I don't buy it. As long as I was still active you would have stayed with me. Great game Miller, you deserve this one Belive what you want brother, but I was getting rid of you at final 5 if Aerith Smom and Miller were all there. Fact is I was keeping you as long as possible. only reason why you were still there at f4 was because Aerith got booted out much too early! I was gonna turn on you like you turn on a dime. I dunno why you think I was not able to screw you like that! That was my plan! I was playing the bad guy you can ask Miller Aerith and Smom. I let them know that, well Aerith for sure anyway. We had a whole discution about that. Actually I know you won't ask her, because you two have this "bad karma" thing between each other that stems from SEG. lol I had to calm Aerith down so many times and I had to tell you how "We can deal with Aerith later". Suck it up Doc, you got played! BY ME!
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Post by Dr Will on Aug 8, 2007 12:29:07 GMT -5
I really find that funny.
When I was rallying the house against Aeirth you did not stick up for her. You thought it was a good idea for her to go when she did. And if you were truly playing CT against me you would have TRIED to rally someone against me. You didn't fair and square you didn't play me at all. And Tess and I don't get a long in a lot of games, it's true. But dont' try to pull the wool over her eyes saying you were looking out for her, don't even try it. Your lying out of your butt and you know it.
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Post by quinn on Aug 8, 2007 12:31:45 GMT -5
I really find that funny. When I was rallying the house against Aeirth you did not stick up for her. You thought it was a good idea for her to go when she did. And if you were truly playing CT against me you would have TRIED to rally someone against me. You didn't fair and square you didn't play me at all. And Tess and I don't get a long in a lot of games, it's true. But dont' try to pull the wool over her eyes saying you were looking out for her, don't even try it. Your lying out of your butt and you know it. Brother you can't be so wrong! The fact that you say all that you are saying now, proves how well I played this game. I had you convinced of something that was not true. I LIED LIKE CRAZY durring the game, NOT NOW! You are the one fooling yourself!
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Post by Dr Will on Aug 8, 2007 12:43:01 GMT -5
Right, Right! *Hitting Ignore on Quinn*
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Post by quinn on Aug 8, 2007 13:31:18 GMT -5
*sigh* jeaslousy LOL!
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Post by Jeff on Aug 8, 2007 13:58:42 GMT -5
Hey! Closing statements! Now!
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Post by quinn on Aug 8, 2007 20:13:31 GMT -5
It was an amazing ride. I just had blast connecting to new and old friendships. Dr Will, you made me laugh, you really did. Other than your hectic scheduel right around this time of the year, you can rock these games very well! You will always be my favorite Republican... Miller you offered me some great "views" in PM's... Look it's a DUCK! I also discovered an amazing guy who totally fell in love with these games. You put your heart into it, like the best of us! Momo, you kept me guessing, and for a bit I was distracted by my wanting to figure out who you were. Sure, I think we might end up beeing rivals for a bit, seeing what our record is. But I'd love to go at it again and again just to size myself up against you Heather, you play the quiet game amazingly. At the start I kept forgetting about you. It might annoy me, but it's because you are so DARN good at it. Then you came out with claws for an important HoH! Smom, you are my sweety, you know that, I've connected with you since the game you hosted. You are an amazingly funny, brave (5 kids), smart (great home business) beautifull (oups stupid "L") woman. C2M, man, you are a vibrant young man, and very outgoing and excited about these games. You're catching on quickly, and you'll probably win one before me HAHAHA.... El Robbi. Well, I can say that I don't know you man. Sorry, I atempted to talk at the start, but we just never connected and I think you also realise you were not 100% into this game. But I hope we can challenge it up in another one wher you'll be more apt to play hard! Aerith, what can I say. I think you are an amazing soul and that your recovery will be fast now that you can rest up and be positive to yourself. Keep a smile on your face, and I hope your break doesn't last too long. Just make sure you cohost or something! For Kali, Darkking, Jason, Alex (who I got to know at SEG yeehaaw, good guy), Anthony. I know I'll see you in game soon to come. From one game to annother, things change, and how you think one player might play totally changes just because we need to do so to keep these games interesting. It's never easy but it's ALWAYS fun. To close off, I feel that strategically, I played a better game. I put myself in a position to have a final 4 where all players would have brought me to final 2. I played evil, I covered my bases, and was able to get out of 4 nominations in a row without getting evicted. And not even by winning veto, simply by knowing I had the votes on my side. I won a couple of challenges, but I think one needs a better strategic game than challenge tallents. One learns from game to game. Again thank you all! And to you Miller, I wish good luck!
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