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Post by JP on Oct 30, 2007 10:07:36 GMT -5
Kind of. Tagalog is a dialect (I guess like how there's Mandarin/Cantonese Chinese?), there's also Kapampangan, Bisaya, Ilonggo, and a lot more, but Tagalog is the main dialect in the capital city and a lot of provinces in Luzon. So you can say Tagalog is the official dialect and most people know it. IMO, all Chinese dialects are so different from each other. I grew up speaking mandarin, Cantonese I picked up from watching drama serials, but when it comes to everything else, I'm clueless. My grandparents speak Hokkien/Hakka, and I go dumb when I go back for CNY holidays. They understand Mandarin only when they want to. Haha. I think that's exactly how dialects are here too! Too bad I don't understand the other dialects, I thought it was cool to know one. You can talk about something and people (hopefully) won't understand you! Mei, I don't think your example is correct. The difference in those English are only several words (elevator/lift, pants/trousers) and accents, while in dialects, it's like a whole new language! English: Good evening to all of you. (Good evening everyone.) Tagalog: Magandang gabi sa inyong lahat. Bisaya: Maayong gabi sa inyong TANAN. Oooh one of the Philippine president's speech. This part greets the Filipinos in different languages dialects: "Batiin ko muna kayong lahat, mga minamahal kong kababayan, magandang gabi sa inyong lahat (let me greet you all first, my fellow countrymen, good evening to all of you); balamu ating cung Cabalen a Capampangan, maayap a bengi kekongan (I don't know what she means! lol); no adda kakailyak ti bangir ni mamang ko, naimbag nga rabii yo amin (wtf!); sa aton mga kaigsuonan gikan sa Mindanao ug Bisayas, maayong gabii kaninyong tanan at wassalamu alaikum sa ating mga brother Muslims (I think she greeted people in the Visayas and Mindanao, and the Muslims); sa mga kasimanwa sang akong bana nga ilonggo, maayong gab-i sa inyo nga tanan (to the Ilonggos?); at sa maasin sa mga Bikolano, marhay nga banggi sa indo gabos. (*faints*)" lol yay for language barriers! |
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Post by Lilly-Beth on Oct 30, 2007 12:08:22 GMT -5
LOL. My Indian friends go crazy whenever I start babbling away in Chinese.
"Speak English la! I cannot understand what you're saying!"
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Post by Lilly-Beth on Oct 30, 2007 12:10:03 GMT -5
Oooh one of the Philippine president's speech. This part greets the Filipinos in different languages dialects: "Batiin ko muna kayong lahat, mga minamahal kong kababayan, magandang gabi sa inyong lahat (let me greet you all first, my fellow countrymen, good evening to all of you); balamu ating cung Cabalen a Capampangan, maayap a bengi kekongan (I don't know what she means! lol); no adda kakailyak ti bangir ni mamang ko, naimbag nga rabii yo amin (wtf!); sa aton mga kaigsuonan gikan sa Mindanao ug Bisayas, maayong gabii kaninyong tanan at wassalamu alaikum sa ating mga brother Muslims (I think she greeted people in the Visayas and Mindanao, and the Muslims); sa mga kasimanwa sang akong bana nga ilonggo, maayong gab-i sa inyo nga tanan (to the Ilonggos?); at sa maasin sa mga Bikolano, marhay nga banggi sa indo gabos. (*faints*)" lol yay for language barriers! She probably means "(let me greet you all first, my fellow countrymen, good evening to all of you)" in all of them. LOL! |
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Post by Mikan Yuuki on Oct 30, 2007 17:47:08 GMT -5
Then explain why I can't understand someone who speaks in a southern accent.  Or how I can't understand British people. |
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Post by Lilly-Beth on Oct 30, 2007 20:08:38 GMT -5
^Because of the accent?
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Post by Mikan Yuuki on Oct 30, 2007 20:12:44 GMT -5
Yeah, my uncle says that the Southern "accent" is actually a dialect. An "accent" is actually something from another country, dialects are within a country. |
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Post by Lilly-Beth on Oct 30, 2007 20:35:38 GMT -5
In linguistics, an accent is a pronunciation characteristic of a particular group of people relative to another group. Accents should not be confused with dialects which are varieties of language differing in vocabulary and syntax as well as pronunciation. Dialects are usually spoken by a group united by geography or social status.
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Post by Mikan Yuuki on Oct 30, 2007 20:37:45 GMT -5
Thus, southern is a dialect, since it's so unlike western/common.
I couldn't understand Big Tom in Africa/All Stars AT ALL. "WTF? Why is he pronouncing that all wrong?!"
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Post by JP on Oct 31, 2007 10:47:37 GMT -5
Thus, southern is a dialect, since it's so unlike western/common. Uhm, no. Accents should not be confused with dialects which are varieties of language differing in vocabulary and syntax as well as pronunciation. Dialects are usually spoken by a group united by geography or social status. I'm pretty sure southern people use the same vocabulary as anyone else in the States. I know Southern people who post in forums and I can understand them.  But if someone posts in Bisaya in a forum then I won't be able to understand them. |
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Post by Mikan Yuuki on Oct 31, 2007 10:49:47 GMT -5
IT'S JP!!!
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Post by JP on Oct 31, 2007 10:59:08 GMT -5
Dammit, it was a trap, wasn't it?!
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Post by Mikan Yuuki on Oct 31, 2007 11:35:22 GMT -5
Yes it was! *hugs JP*
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Post by kathleen on Nov 2, 2007 18:37:30 GMT -5
omg *pulls Mei off of JP*
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Post by Mikan Yuuki on Nov 2, 2007 19:38:51 GMT -5
*keeps a hold of JP*
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Post by JP on Nov 3, 2007 9:58:19 GMT -5
*swims to the bottom of the ocean*
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Or how I can't understand British people.
