Jury Questions

[quinn]

Well, that's kinda nice that you are being honest here.

It's depressing to know that I should not have trusted you.....

So if I get you straight, you were depending on an "unspoken automatic deal at the start of any game" with Nate to fail to uphold your f2 with me. You were also counting on that you guys would not make it that far and that this 'deal" you were making would not count anyways seeing as you were not there anymore.....

All of this, even if I was the first one to approach you with a final 2 deal.

And no cop outs for me guys, I've been saying it on SEG and now here for sure, I am aware that I am not putting all of my efforts into these games as i used to. I just don't have the time right now. So that said, like i've said at SEG, I am taking a break from this.

Not soar or anything, I know it's me and not you guys.

But it is depressing to also know that, to be successful at these now, we need to know the history of the each and every player in your game to try and find out if possibly they might have a special tie with one and other.

I don't have the patience or the time to do that.

Alright thank you guys.

[Erin Brockovich]

But it is depressing to also know that, to be successful at these now, we need to know the history of the each and every player in your game to try and find out if possibly they might have a special tie with one and other.

Quinn,

Please don't take this personal, your a great guy and someone I have always wanted to work with. I know it is hard to come between someone with a history and it is definitely hard to go against someone who has been "there" for me 100%. That is what I base my game on, who really cares enough to be there to build strong trusting bonds and communicate about the game and real life.

It is obvious you are too tied up with work and these games don't fit into your real life to really commit and you know me by now, if I play a game, I am committed.

Take a break if you need, but don't disappear on us like last time.

[quinn]

Number one, I've never dissapeared, I've ALWAYS have had a game going for the past like 5 years (if not more), not always as Guzz or Quinn, but often as a ghost.

Secondly, I am not taking this personally at all Sue. You should know better than anyone when I take it personally. THIS is not a personal attack, this is fact, and you (and Nate, again this is not to be taken as a personal attack to either of you, just facts) are providing me the fact. Like I said, I know i've been neglecting these games, but you also knew that before THIS game. It did not help that you had had all this talk with me prior to this game about "making it up to me", "We need to have a game where we can be f2 together." yadda yadda yadda. I'm just realizing that you're strategy starts before the games do, or are even invented yet. lol

I hardly find it fair (this is not an emotional plea) that because of past relationships, it can negate, as you dilligently pointed out in your reply, your very first f2 of a game. Especially when that f2 is "consummated" as in you did not just agree, you confirmed to me the intention for a final 2. I can understand when someone offers a final 2 deal to someone else late in a game, and that someone else says "Yeah of course" and it's a "mislead", but to "delude yourself" to say that "well i agreed to a final 2 only IF certain criteria s are met, then i was SO final 2 with you and that's ok" because, as you tell it, of a unspoken deal due to pass game playing and "that's just me covering my bases"...... Well that's not fair. Just like I don't find it fair to carry vengence from one game to an other.

Just to point out the fact that you validated my alliance... Here's your answer to Ant just earlier.

I knew I had already made other commitments and had already been aligned with a select few and when the game started I was asked for a room alliance with Chad and Quinn. I was committed and most loyal to those alliances because they were solidified.

That said, hey Thrills, once I come back from my sabatical, how about you and I have a string of non yet invented games where we should not vote for each other. Let it be called an "unspoken deal".

Just a final word. Yes I am currently very busy in my life. But I begged and begged you to talk to me with AIM even if it goes to my hip (BlackBerry) it does not bother me, can I always answer you right away? no. Would I get back to you? Yes. You kept telling me it you felt bad/guilty about contacting me via my BB, but that's why I have one. You know it's the best way to get me.

Your guilt or "feeling bad" my friend, because you are a friend, is not my fault.

I understand the whole "players need to talk and need to upkeep an alliance", but not everyone in these games have time to go into great details of their lives and day to day activities. Players should respect that. These games are a great way to meet ppl. I really am glad to have met you, to have learned about you and your family life. It's fantastic, don't get me wrong. But to think that one will only ally with someone else who has time to talk "personal" all the time..... It's for different taste I guess. But it also means that we will most likely never be able to be in an alliance together because of your narrow window of "rules to be in an alliance with me".

NOW again, I take responsibility for not up keeping our alliance as much as i might have had too early on, but the two weeks prior to my eviction, i had upped my game and was talking a lot more. You, my dear, was not aware of what I had done. As you were *gasp should i say it* let's call it "unavailable" for a week or so. You can ask "special ppl" about this, I was talking a lot during that time *gasp* ON MY BLACKBERRY!!! Also I had talked to Yang to save me (he voted late as he said that it was his biggest mistake of his (my lol) game). So all in all, yeah, i was not the most talkative out there, but i certainly was not mute. And I had decided to really put forth an effort for this one game.

In fact, now that I am thinking about this...... I think you are mixing up games here..... I was perhaps not to your level of talk and alliance up keeping, but I was very active in this game.

Funny thing is too, the one game we got to know each other the most, where we talked 1) strategy 2) personal stuff (ALL THE TIME), you stabbed me in the back. I repeat, this is not a hurt post, this is "I will deconstruct your "theory of a good alliance partner" that you seem to be basing your whole argument on.

[Nathan]

You two and your "clan" definitely dominated the game in all aspects at the beginning. I do however think you guys started to underestimate the other side of the house and, at times, got a little bit too comfortable with where you sat.. which ultimately led to the back-to-back evictions of Warren, Chad, and Quinn. Would you agree with this?

I don't know if it's entirely fair to say that we “underestimated” the other players in the game, because that implies that we didn't feel threatened by them. I for one, always felt like there were threats in the group. You especially. I mean, throughout this whole game I was only ever put on the block once, and that was by you, so I always knew that you were capable of taking us down. The evictions of Warren, Chad and Quinn were maybe because we let our guards down a little bit, but I don't think I ever “underestimated” you. I knew you were a strong competitor, which is why I wanted you out so much.

How did you both play differently and similarly to your first games? Do you feel you played better or worse, and why?

I actually think my gameplay was pretty similar to last season. In both games I had a strong alliance based on a foundation of friendship and trust. I was the most dominant challenge competitor in both games, and I think strategically, I always had my head in the game. The biggest difference is that last season, I pretty much hated everyone in the game. This season, I liked the majority of people here. Overall though, I think my game in All Stars was more well rounded than it was in BB5. I think my strategic and challenge aspects were good in both games, but I think my social game in BB5 was lacking in a few areas. But the social aspect is a big part of the game, and I think I did better this time, just based on the fact that I liked the people in this game more.

Finally, list each player in this game in the order you perceived them as threats and explain your reasonings why thoroughly.

I am going to answer this a little differently than Erin did. She listed me as the biggest threat, but I am going to list her last on my list because she was never a threat to me in particular. Erin and Warren are both strong players and definitely threats in the game, but they were never threats to ME. I knew I could trust them completely. Also, when the game started, Dick and Will were the people I wanted out the most. Now that the game is ending, I don't look back and see either of those two as threats. So I'm going to rank people based on how I felt about them while they were still in the game.

1. Thrills – you were very capable of winning challenges, very smart, and I wasn't sure if you liked me very much. Also, as I said before – you were the only person to ever nominate me for eviction.

2. Will – Like I said, I don't look back at this game and think of Will as a big threat, but when the game started, I thought he was the biggest threat in the house. I knew from previous experience how smart and cunning Will is. I also know that he is capable of telling lies and breaking alliances, which is why I targeted him and why he left so early.

3. Yang – I had an alliance with Yang, but I never fully trusted him. I knew he was capable of turning on me at any moment, which he eventually did.

4. Jessica – Jess was a threat because she and I were so obviously on opposite sides of the house, and she was a very social player who I think had a lot of connections with other players.

5. Anthony – I perceived Anthony as a threat because I don't think he likes me much. After the game started I realized that he wasn't doing his best in challenges, and I became less worried about him, but in the beginning, I thought he was definitely going to come after me.

6. Dick – Just because he doesn't like me much.

7. Chad – Chad is a smart guy and capable of winning challenges. I don't put him higher because he was aligned with me, and I trusted him for the most part.

8. Heather – The only reason I was threatened by Heather is that I thought people would take her to the end as someone who would be easy to beat. She would have made the perfect final 2 goat, and I thought she might slide through to the end based on that.

9. Kathleen – She's a sweet girl, but not someone I was terribly worried about.

10. Barinade- again, not someone I was worried about as far as winning challenges and making decisions. I don't think his heart was in the game.

11. Quinn – The only reason I don't put Quinn higher is because I trusted him and didn't think he would come after me.

12. Erin- again, I trusted Erin completely and I was never worried about her coming after me. She's a very strong player, but she was never a €threat to ME.

13.Warren – see above.

Thanks Thrills.

[quinn]

Has this game died?

[Jeff]

Nope, I messaged Jesscia who said he'll post tonight and need to get ahold of Chad.

[All Stars Jessica!]

Congrats to you both, you both played great and deserve to be at the end.
The one thing I learned from this game was how to have fun and I truly got to know Nathan better and genuinely like him, and Erin and I buried the hatchet as well, and I am truly glad to have walked away knowing both of you and hopefully we get to play in future games together.

Your question is easy, what did you honestly think of my game play?

That's it, tough decision here for sure.

Good luck.

[All Stars Jessica!]

Jessica – at first when I met Jason he was a huge threat to me, socially and competitively. Usually, I would have good things to say about his creativeness and good strategy, those were all the qualities he has when he puts an effort into the games he plays. But lets face it; this guy has left the org planet long time ago. He obviously has no time for these games and I have no patience for people like that. Most of us play these games as a hobby and we all take different approaches on how we play, others take it more serious to at least commit to the game to the end. I have nothing more to say about Jason other then he needs to focus on his full time job and quit signing up for games he cannot commit too. He’s reputation as a good player has been tarnished in my eyes and you will never see me play for him or with him because he just doesn’t have what it takes anymore.

Was there really a need to make this personal? What game did I bail on? I played this game hard until I got voted out, I just won a game recently that I put a ton of time into. I am not sure what you are referring to by this but I didn't get personal with you at all, but you just launched a smear campaign against me personally. I just played the shit out of both SEG games I was in. This is a completely unfounded and bullshit response, and another example of why I just don't get you sometimes. I wish I had read this before complimenting you above.

Unbelievable.

[quinn]

^^ *Snicker* not at you Jessica... at the situation.

[Nathan]

Hi Jessica. Thanks for coming back.

I think your game was good for the most part. I always felt like you were a strong threat to win the game. I think you made a few great moves, but unfortunately - I also think you made the biggest mistake in the entire game when you didn't put me and Erin on the block together.

Now, one mistake does not equal a horrible game. I'd put you in the top 5 players this season. I think maybe if you had stayed a little more focused on getting to the end, you would probably have been sitting here in the final 2 and most likely be named the winner.

Thanks!

[All Stars Jessica!]

Thanks for being honest Nathan. I think I know what Erin thinks of my gameplay too. Thank you both.

[Jeffie Chen]

I e-mailed Chad yesterday. If I don't hear from him by tomorrow evening, I'll look into replacing him as a juror.

[Jeffie Chen]

Some jurors have already started sending in their votes. If you're ready to vote, you may send your vote in.

If Warren does decide to replace Chad on the jury (he's in Spain right now, so not on regularly), then he can ask questions of the F2 is he so chooses.

Other jurors, please send in your votes now.

[Jeffie Chen]

Jurors who have voted
DoctorThrills
Jessica
Anthony
Quinn
Heather

[Warren]

Well, well, well... I must say I am 100% pleased to see Erin and Nathan sitting in the final two. And even more pleased that I get to come back for this one special event. I think I have the best deal out of the bunch, I left before the jury and didn't have to deal with the dead beat drama queens and thingy-eyed cry babies who ended up making up the jury, but I still get to vote. Now it is no secret my eviction was quick fast and unexpected, so what a great twist in fate to have me return for all my fans still mourning my eviction.

When I left this game I had a feeling Erin and Nathan would make it to the end, and I say justice has been served. I knew coming into this game they were the strongest and the smartest this series had to offer. I can't say how appreciative I am to have been able to become their friends and allies over the years. It even makes me laugh because no one expected them to beat out the rest. I haven't talked with anyone from this game aside from Nathan and Erin since my eviction, well there was that one time Yang came crawling to me trying to explain himself and justify his actions, but that convo was cut short.

Anyways - back on track

Erin (Sue) you have been a great friend over the years, we are going on four long years of history and I am glad we got to play one last time together. Walking down memory lane, in my first BB game you were in the final two and in my last you are in the final two. You are a great player and a great friend.

Nathan, thank God everyone in BB5 was socially inept or else I don't think we would have bonded and dominated that game together. You are funny, smart, and a great friend. I am glad we have been able to hand it to some people in these games.

You guys are flawless. Thanks for the memories
Good luck
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