Selah
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Post by Selah on Jul 11, 2008 1:14:49 GMT -5
Quick note: I am going out of town for the weekend. I will have computer access but it will be limited, especially on Sunday when I won't have any. So if someone asks me something, please don't think that I am ignoring you...I am just away!
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Post by Raymond on Jul 11, 2008 9:39:12 GMT -5
Lol...don't worry Selah. I understand. I did want to play, but my plans got shot down everytime. Question: Aside from the person "sitting" besides you, who did you get to know, as a person, the most out of the jurors & pre-jurors? Other than that, I just wanna say good luck & I'll be basing my vote on who answers these questions the best & most honestly. ;D
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Post by ZhanHuPwns on Jul 11, 2008 12:21:08 GMT -5
selah, when you compare me to erik, which one are you talking about? there are a few of them
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Post by Jason on Jul 11, 2008 15:43:42 GMT -5
ZHAN, Thanks so much for the kind words. I'll do the best I can on these questions! Ok, first I would like to congratulate the two of you for making it to the finals. You two did a great job! I have to get to bed now, so I will just post a few quick questions now. I will get to the rest of them sometime tomorrow 1. List all the deals you made in this game, and then list the ones you broke 2. Rate the jury members in order from 1 to 7 (1 is best, 7 is worst) on strategy. Also say one thing about their strategy that they are very good at, and one flaw that led them to being eliminated 3. Compare yourself and the other finalist to a tv survivor. And say why 4. Do the same thing as question 3, except with the jurors. Don't forget the reasons. DEALS1. I made a deal with Dr. Will very early on to go to the end together, but he was voted out so that deal was dead. 2. I made a deal with Selah in the early phases to work together, at the merge it became a F2 pact. This deal was obviously held up. 3. I made a deal with CrabbyPatti to work with her, but it was intentionally that vague. I fully intended on working with Patti, but it came to my attention that it was either her or me in a vote, and I had to vote for her to stay in the game. Not a great circumstance but I wasn't going to go out of the game because I said I would work with her. I hope she understands the circumstance, I wasn't targeting her, but I did what I had to do to survive. 4. I made a F6 and then again a F4 deal with Birdman. This was held up, though I didn't want it to be. 5. I made a no-vote deal with Liz to get ZHP out. I fully intended to keep Liz safe but then Raymond won the next immunity, much to everyone's surprise. I never really said how long the no-vote would be but I think I implied to Liz that I would like a F4 of Liz, Ray, Selah and me. So I broke that deal. I believe that was it, but then again I am forgetful so please call me out on anything I missed there. JURY RANKINGLets see, everyone played a pretty good game, but I'll rank the strategy... 1. BIRDMAN - hands down. He thought he had this game in the bag, and a lot of us almost gave it to him. He got no votes, and at one point in this game he thought he had 3 different people taking him to the F2 (me, Selah and ZHP). That's pretty great. 2. PURPLE ROCK - PR fell to an unforseen betrayal by Birdman, but up until that point he, Nurse Joy, Liz and Ray had a tight F4 and he definitely seemed to be the ringleader. Plus he was fun. 3. ELIZABETH - Even when everything was stacked against her she kept fighting and made moves to stay. I honestly wish she was in the F4. 4. ZHAN - His main move was to stick to Birdman, but a great move nonetheless, if you see someone willing to be a bad guy and you don't have to do the dirty work...why not? 5. NURSE JOY - again, a very active player that fought really hard and thought that they brought their team to where he needed it to be, but then fell. 6. CRABBY PATTI - Only because I know she played a great game on our tribe and would have made it farther had our team been in the majority come the merge. 7. RAYMOND - sorry, I just didn't see Raymond do anything in this game, other than win that immunity. He seemed to be comfortable just doing whatever. He bailed on his original tribe to go with an alliance already established outside of the game which I also consider BS, and then just kind of hung around. COMPARISONSI would compare myself a bit to Rafe in this game. I was very friendly with everyone, and would chat with anyone. I didn't cause trouble and go out of my way to backstab. I quietly helped our tribe win (and one loss, sorry) and I may have only won one immunity challenge, but I was up there in all of them. I also helped strategize but wasn't a big mouth about it. I played a quiet, subtle, friendly game...like Rafe. I would compare Selah to Tina Wesson. Total sweetheart, southern belle. Worked her butt off. Great friend to everyone. Made all the right moves in the game. Gave 100% of herself to every part of the game. And made the right alliances when she needed to. - JURORSBirdman - Totally Johnny Fairplay. Not sure if Selah put this too, but we talked about how Eric was playing like JFP. A snake, that everyone trusted. Raymond - Cassandra. Remember Cassandra? Remember how she made the final 3? No? Well Raymond almost did the same thing. Elizabeth - Kelly Wigglesworth. Kelly totally was the original scrappy girl...and Liz is like that. She will scrap by and do what she needs to do to make moves happen. She very well could have been sitting in the finals. Zhan - Paschal. Just content to ride along. Do what was needed, stick by his Neleh (Birdman). Purple Rock - Shane. Very cocky and out there and didn't see it coming. Nurse Joy- Candice. Again, thought that her alliance was safe and then quickly became the first target when the flip happened. CrabbyPatti - Brandon from Guatemala. Targeted first after the merge for being too strong and someone that needed to be gotten rid of.
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Post by Jason on Jul 11, 2008 15:52:21 GMT -5
Eric/Birdman, Thanks so much for the nice words, and I am glad your questions are very sincere and not the mean ones you told me you were going to post! Congrats to the both of you. You played me good. You both defiantly deserve the final 2 more than any of the 6 jurors before me. Both of you worked with me in this game. You both helped me get to the final 3. And, you both helped in my removal of this game. I know you guys had a strategy to make it where you are. But you never showed me once. You never asked really asked me anything about the game, you would either do things behind my back, or follow exactly what I do. Not something I was happy about. I feel that their were 2 BIG turning points in this game. 1. When ZHP and Myself decided to go against our original tribe, and when Raymond went against his original tribe. 2. When you voted out ZHP. 1. I felt like Liz, Joy, Raymond, Rock were really close in this game. Even if I was wrong, I knew there was a good chance they would take each other to the final 4 over me. So, I took ZHP and we moved over with you 2 in hopes we made the final 4. Now, I already had 2 side deals. One with ZHP one with Selah. So I figured out final 4 I would take out Jason. I would have the idea that both wanted to take me to the finals. 2. But, you voted out ZHP. I was no longer in control of this game. I believe this was your best move. So I have no idea what one of you played the better game. You two had completely different strategies and you never really showed them to me. I'm going to vote for who I think played the better game. But, you need to let me know who did. So, this is what I need you to do. 1. Jason, please tell me why I should vote for Selah. Selah, please tell me why I should vote for Jason. 2. There are 7 jury members, tell me one thing you liked about each of them. 3. What was your favorite thing about playing this game? I will look over what you say, who ever I think gave the best responses will get my vote. 1. Well, what's not to love about Selah!? I think Selah played a flawless game. She made great alliances, played hard in the challenges and always stuck to her guns. Her instincts were always spot on and she knew exactly what her circumstances were every single time, and what to do in every situation. She was a master strategist, and a very social player. You couldn't really ask for more in a F2 player. 2. I liked many things about all the players in this game to be quite honest... a. Birdman - I loved your tenacity and hunger in this game. You really wanted to win, and its probably the hardest I have ever seen you play in a game. You were very excited and it was infectious. It was fun talking strategy with you. b. Raymond - I liked that I always knew where Raymond stood. He wasn't much of a puzzle, so when it came to planning my gut on him was always reliable. He didn't try and stir the waters and kind of did whatever he wanted, I can respect that. c. Liz - Liz tries to play a very nice game and not upset anyone, and I really like that about her. She is nice to everyone and at the same time is this fierce competitor, I like the duality of Liz. d. Zhan - A very nice guy. He got blindsided and instead of throwing a fit he very graciously said nice things to everyone and left the game. He is very nice and someone I am eager to play with again very soon. e. Purple Rock - Fierce! I love this guy. He loves playing games and loves the mind game part of it and really gets into it, it makes games so much more fun. f. Nurse Joy - Again, I didn't get much time with NJ this time around, but here's another player who has such a love for the games that you can't help but like them. g. CrabbyPatti - Hilarious name first off. Also, seemed like a very genuine person, I am excited to see who this is. I suspect Heather, but not sure. Either way this person was very kind and I liked that. 3. My favorite thing about playing this game is that everyone in it was mostly active and very very nice. Even when getting burned by Birdman everyone was still very polite to one another, it made the game have a very cool laid back feel. It was still Survivor to be sure, but it felt like there was no stress, and I loved that. I hope that's good Eric, good luck!
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Post by ZhanHuPwns on Jul 11, 2008 16:42:32 GMT -5
thanks for answering my questions. i got some more coming in a few minutes
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Post by ZhanHuPwns on Jul 11, 2008 16:48:19 GMT -5
ok, here are some more questions:
Both of you:
1. List each tribal council that you voted in, who you voted for, and the strategy behind it
2. Who did you socialize the most with in this game, and who did you socialize the least with (this question does not include the pre-merge people that you were never on a tribe with)
3. Do you feel as if you played the best game out of all the players in this game and why? If not, who do you think played better?
4. At what times in this game did you feel that you were the one that would be voted out? What did you do to try to save yourself?
5. What are some things that you did that the other finalist did not do that makes you worthy of winning?
Selah:
1. What were the reasons behind taking Jason to the final 2 over Bird Man?
Jason:
1. At what tribal council did you feel most vulnerable at? Which tribal council vote do you think benefited you the most?
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Post by BioDork on Jul 11, 2008 17:17:37 GMT -5
1. BIRDMAN - hands down. He thought he had this game in the bag, and a lot of us almost gave it to him. He got no votes, and at one point in this game he thought he had 3 different people taking him to the F2 (me, Selah and ZHP). That's pretty great.
lol I also talked to raymond about final 2 at final 4. And Rock was my first final 2 deal.
lol I normally don't play like this.
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Post by Lilly-Beth on Jul 11, 2008 18:20:31 GMT -5
lol I also talked to raymond about final 2 at final 4. And Rock was my first final 2 deal. lol I normally don't play like this. You mean, you don't normally lie in games?? How surprising. (Sorry, I couldn't resist. ) lol
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Post by Purple Rock on Jul 11, 2008 18:38:30 GMT -5
Thanks for the nice words. =]
I know this topic isn't really about me and I'm not trying to make it that way so I'll make this short and tell you all I never intended to have a F4 with Ray nor do I remember promising one, the only F4 I ever agreed to was Me/Liz/Jake/Eric (although I threw some ideas up in the air that included ZHP and Selah but they fell flat...)
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Post by Purple Rock on Jul 11, 2008 20:53:25 GMT -5
Guess you never read any of my posts. Lol.
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Post by Jason on Jul 11, 2008 20:58:01 GMT -5
Well, first off I'd like to congratulate the two of you, and thank Jeff for hosting such a fun game (which also happened to end my 9 month hiatus from playing these damn things! lol)! Now, I'm not going to give you a 3 hour research assignment like the people above me did, it isn't necessary and is a bit over the top (seriously, how does ranking members of the jury affect the vote?). If all 7 of us did that then we'd still be here Christmas time, lol! Anyways, Selah, you said you had a ton of game that would be kept quiet and not revealed until jury time, so reveal it please. =) Jason, it seems as if Selah had your back multiple times and saved you from being voted out 2-3 times. So is it safe to say she was the mastermind behind the alliance, making the bold moves and saving your ass when it was on the line? And was there ever a similar situation where the roles were reversed? Hey Purple Rock, Good to hear from you again, and thanks for the support on the jury questions, they have been tough! But dems da breaks. Yours is a good question,and a lot of this is a matter of circumstance. First off, I certainly didn't reveal a lot of my game plan so I think that might skew your thoughts that I was in the backseat a lot. I would say that I was in the co-captain chair the whole game. Equal with Selah. One reason it seemed like Selah was trying to save me a lot is because I was targeted quite a few times. Selah was never targeted for some reason. For some reason a lot of you guys wanted to go after me. I heard many times that I was a "threat" and had to be taken out. So that was when Selah and I would scheme to figure out how to keep me and get farther along in our goals. So the situation was never really reversed but at some point it became obvious to most players that Selah and I were together. SO in order for Selah to stay safe I needed to stay safe. There were many times when we were like "oh sh•t, now what", but we always figured out a way. IF you ask Selah she will tell you I never panicked and never really got freaked out. I made the appropriate moves. We figured out how we were going to weaken you guys together and knew that you and Liz had to go early...and the ZHP thing was my doing as well. So while Selah didn't have to maneuver quite as much as I did, we both worked very hard behind the scenes to overcome the odds and end up here in the Final 2. I hope that makes sense and adequately answers your question. Thanks again PR. Jason
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Post by Purple Rock on Jul 11, 2008 21:03:12 GMT -5
Okay then. If you were both co-captains then what sets the two of you apart from each other. What makes you more deserving of my vote then Selah (and Selah, what makes you more deserving then Jason)? It's the games like this where two people are equally deserving that always have the 4-3 finishes.
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Post by Jason on Jul 11, 2008 21:12:26 GMT -5
Okay then. If you were both co-captains then what sets the two of you apart from each other. What makes you more deserving of my vote then Selah (and Selah, what makes you more deserving then Jason)? It's the games like this where two people are equally deserving that always have the 4-3 finishes. IF I had to give a reason I would say that I had a bit of a harder road getting to the finals because I was a target constantly and I still managed to sway people and stay alive. Selah worked really hard, but there was never really a threat of her being voted out. Hope that helps.
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Post by Purple Rock on Jul 11, 2008 21:14:52 GMT -5
Lol. Well. While the control was over on our side, I lobbied to get her voted out probably 3 TCs in a row but there was always at least one person who would object so we had to change constantly at the last minute.
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